Faculty Meetings with Rudolf Steiner
GA 300a
12 June 1920, Stuttgart
Eleventh Meeting
A brochure and yearly report are mentioned.
Dr. Steiner: What is the purpose of all this advertising? A teacher: We are going to send it to all interested people. Dr. Steiner: Then, is it an invitation? In that case, everything you have shown me is much too long. It will not be effective. If you want every potential member of the Waldorf School Association to read it, you should condense it into half a page. What you have here is a small book.
A teacher: I don’t think it is so thick.
Dr. Steiner: Think about Dr. Stein’s manuscript. It’s already thirty printed pages. It is too long and too academic. It’s more like a report to another faculty. It is directed more to pedagogical experts than to people who might want to join the Association. You should direct it to everyone interested in the school. They would never read so much. You did not mention this perspective last time. We always looked at the brochure from the standpoint of public relations.
This brochure could serve only to replace the usual academic presentation. There have always been formal presentations and something like this could provide a general presentation of the school. We could, for instance, describe the facilities and buildings and then go on to describe the pedagogy of the school and the individual subjects.
A teacher: We especially need material for the parents who want to send their children to us.
Dr. Steiner: That’s true. For such parents, we could summarize all the material we already have. For example, there is some good material in the Waldorf News. None of that, however, can replace a brochure that should be no longer than eight printed pages. There should be thousands of members, and we need to give them a short summary.
A teacher: That would not preclude also having a yearly report.
Dr. Steiner: You must remember how little interest people have in things. Today, people read in a peculiar way.
It’s true, isn’t it, that a magazine article is different. However, if you want to make something clear to someone and hope they will become a member and pay fifty marks, you don’t need to go into all the details. You need only give a broad outline. This brochure would be different. It would contain a request for payment of some amount. But, the yearly report might be more like what I would call a history of the school. There, we can include everything individual teachers put together. The reports need not be short. All reports can be long. If the brochure brings in a lot of money, Mr. Molt will surely provide some for the yearly report. All that is a question of republicanism. The number of names it mentions would make the yearly report effective. We should, however, consider whether we should strive for uniformity. One person may write pedantically and report about what happened each month. Another might write, at least from what I have seen, about things I could do only in five hundred years. (Speaking to Dr. Stein) You wrote this so quickly that you could also write the others.
Dr. Steiner is asked to write something also.
Dr. Steiner: That is rather difficult. If I were to write even three pages, I would have to report about things I have experienced, and that could be unpleasant for some. If I were to write it as a teacher, I would tend to write it differently than the brochure. The brochure should contain our intent, what we will improve each year. In the report, we should show what we accomplished and what we did not accomplish. There, the difference between reality and the brochure would be apparent. If I wrote something, I would, of course, keep it in that vein. It will put people out of shape afterward, but I can write the three pages.
A teacher reports about his remedial class with nine children.
Two teachers report about teaching foreign language in the first grade.
Dr. Steiner: The earlier you begin, the more easily children learn foreign languages and the better their pronunciation. Beginning at seven, the ability to learn languages decreases with age. Thus, we must begin early. Speaking in chorus is good, since language is a social element. It is always easier to speak in chorus than individually.
Two teachers report about the classes in Latin and Greek. There are two classes for Latin, but in the lower class, there are only two boys. The upper class is talented and industrious.
Dr. Steiner: There is good progress in the foreign languages.
A teacher reports about the kindergarten with thirty-three children. She asks if the children should do cut work in the kindergarten.
Dr. Steiner: If you undertake such artistic activities with the children, you will notice that some have talent for them. There will not be many, and the others you will have to push. Those things, when they are pretty, are pretty. They are little works of art. I would allow a child to work in that way only if I saw that he or she has a tendency in that direction. I would not introduce it to the children in general.
You should begin painting with watercolors.
You mean cutting things out and pasting them? If you see that one or another child has a talent for silhouettes, you could allow that. I would not fool around, don’t do that. You can probably work best with the children you have when you have them do meaningful things with simple objects. Anything! You should try to discover what interests the children. There are children, particularly girls, who can make a doll out of any handkerchief. The doll’s write letters and then pass them on. You could be the postman or the post office. Do sensible things with simple objects.
When the change of teeth begins, the children enter the stage when they want to imagine things, for instance that one thing is a rabbit and another is a dog. Sensible things that the child dreams into. The principle of play is that until the change of teeth, the child imitates sensible things, dolls and puppets. With boys, it is puppets, with girls, dolls. Perhaps they could have a large puppet with a small one alongside. These need only be a couple pieces of wood. At age seven, you can bring the children into a circle or ring, and they can imagine something. Two could be a house, and the others go around and live in it. In that game, the children are there themselves.
With musical children, you can play something else, perhaps something that would support their musical talent. You should help unmusical children develop their musical capacities through dance and eurythmy. You need to be inventive. You can do all these things, but you need to be inventive, because otherwise everything becomes stereotyped. Later, it is easier because you can connect with things in the school.
A teacher explains how she conveyed the consonants in eurythmy by working with the growth of plants.
Dr. Steiner: That is very nice. The children do not differ much. You do not have many who are untalented nor many who are gifted. They are average children. Also, you have few choleric or strongly melancholic temperaments. Those children are mostly phlegmatic or sanguine. All that plays a role since you do not have all four temperaments.
You can get the phlegmatic children moving only if you try to work with the more difficult consonants. For the sanguine children, work with the easier consonants. Do the r and s with the phlegmatic children, and with the sanguine children, do the consonants that only hint of movement, d and t. If we have other temperaments in the next years, we can try more things. It is curious that those children who do not accomplish much in the classroom can do a great deal in eurythmy. The progress is good, but I would like to see you take more notice of what progresses. Our task is to see that we speak more to the children about what we bring from the teaching material, that we look more toward training thinking and feeling. For example, in arithmetic we should make clear to the students that with minus five, they have five less than they owe to someone. You need to speak with them very precisely.
It is often good to drift off the subject. You then notice that the children are not so perfect in their essays. It’s true, isn’t it, that the children who are more talented in their heads write good essays, and those who are more talented in their bodies are good in eurythmy. You should try to balance that through conversation. When you talk with children, if you speak about something practical and go into it deeply, you turn their attention away from the head.
A teacher asks how to handle the present perfect tense. Dr. Steiner: I would speak with the children about various parallels between the past and the complete. What is a perfect person, a perfect table? I would speak about the connections between what is complete and finished and the perfect present tense. Then I would discuss the imperfect tense where you still are in the process of completion.
If I had had time today, I would have gone through the children’s reading material in the present perfect. Of course, you can’t translate every sentence that way, but that would bring some life into it. Eurythmy also brings life into the development of the head. There is much you can do between the lines. I already said today that I can understand how you might not like to drift off the subject. That is something we can consider an ideal, namely to bring other things in. For example, today I wanted to tease your children in the third grade with “hurtig toch.” In that way, you could expand their thinking. That means “express train.” That is what I mean by doing things with children between the lines.
The eurythmy room is discussed.
Dr. Steiner: I was never lucky enough that someone promised that room to me. Frau Steiner would prefer to have simply the field and a roof above it. Although you can awaken the most beautiful physical capacities in children through eurythmy, they can also feel all the terrible effects of the room, and that makes them so tired. We all know of the beautiful eurythmy hall, but someone forgot to make the ventilation large enough, so that we can’t use it. For eurythmy, we need a large, well-ventilated hall. Everything we have had until now is unsatisfactory for a eurythmy hall. We have only a substitute. Eurythmy rooms need particularly good ventilation. We have to build the Eurythmeum.
Elfte Konferenz
Rudolf Steiner sprach am 10. Juni zum ersten Mal an einer Monatsfeier, und erstmals erklang die Frage an die Kinder: «Habt ihr eure Lehrer lieb?» Für den nächsten Tag war ein Elternabend einberufen worden. Steiner sprach über «Die Schulgewohnheiten der niedergehenden Zeit und die Schulpraxis des «Kommenden Tages» (beides in GA 298). Er kritisierte das öffentliche Bildungswesen mit scharfen Worten.
Themen: Der Jahresbericht. Mit den Fremdsprachen soll man früh beginnen. Unterrichten ist immer ein Gespräch mit der ganzen Klasse. Ausgleich schaffen zwischen kopf- und leibbegabten Kindern. Über die Arbeit im Kindergarten.
Bemerkungen: Steiner wies auf den Fremdsprachenunterricht hin und betonte, dass dieser früh zu beginnen habe, denn mit fortschreitendem Alter würde die Fähigkeit, eine zweite oder dritte Sprache so zu erlernen, wie die Muttersprache erlernt worden ist, erlahmen. Bei einer Fragenbeantwortung nach einem Vortrag in Torquay meinte er, bei «vernünftigen Bedingungen» könne ein Fremdsprachenunterricht im Kindergarten beginnen (GA 311, 20.08.1924).
Am Beispiel des «Perfektum» schilderte Steiner, was er unter einem lebendigen Unterricht versteht.
Wie genau er Erreichtes und noch zu Erreichendes der Schule im Auge hatte, zeigte sich an seiner Weigerung, am Jahresbericht mitzuarbeiten; es wäre «eine penible Sache».
Vorsitz: Paul Baumann.
Es werden der Prospekt und der Jahresbericht erwähnt.
RUDOLF STEINER: Wozu und wie weit soll das als Werbematerial dienen?
EMIL. MOLT: [Es soll] an alle interessierten Persönlichkeiten [geschickt werden].
RUDOLF STEINER: Es soll also eine Aufforderung beinhalten. Dann ist das, was mir vorgelegt wurde, viel zu lang. Das würde keine Wirkung haben. Wenn es in dieser Form jeder liest, der Mitglied des Waldorfschulvereins werden soll, dann würde es zusammengearbeitet werden müssen auf einen halben Bogen. Das aber hier ist ein richtiges Heft.
KARL STOCKMEYER: Ich glaube nicht, dass es so dick ist.
RUDOLF STEINER: Aber denken Sie sich die Schrift von Dr. Stein, es hat schon dreißig Druckseiten. Es ist [auch] dem Stile nach zu lang. Dies, was da ist, ist eine Art Verständigungsschrift mit der anderen Lehrerschaft. Es ist mehr gerichtet an die, welche pädagogisch denken, als an die, die dem Verein beizutreten beabsichtigen. Das soll doch allgemein an alle an der Schule Interesse Habenden beim Publikum gerichtet sein. Die lesen nicht [eine] solche Sache. Dieser Gesichtspunkt ist das letzte Mal gar nicht aufgeworfen worden. Der Prospekt war immer unter dem Gesichtspunkt der Propaganda betrachtet worden.
Also nur in der Form als Ersatz für die sonst üblichen gelehrten Abhandlungen könnte dieser Prospekt vorangehen. Sonst ist immer die gelehrte Abhandlung da gewesen, und da könnte ja eine solche Sache vorangehen, die prinzipiell die Sache auseinanderlegt. Eine Beschreibung des Baues, des Hauses, und dann geht man über ganz auf die Beschreibung der Pädagogik und Didaktik der Waldorfschule und geht ein auf die einzelnen Gegenstände.
KARL STOCKMEYER: Es ist besonders auch Material für die Eltern nötig, die Kinder zu uns schicken wollen.
RUDOLF STEINER: Das ist so: Für solche Eltern, da wäre die Zusammenstellung des jetzt schon vorliegenden Materials, zum Beispiel das, was in den Waldorf-Nachrichten ist, ein gutes Material. Aber alles das ersetzt nicht einen Prospekt, der nicht länger sein soll als acht Druckseiten. Das müssen ja Tausende von Mitgliedern werden, da müssen Sie eine ganz kurze, kompendiöse Sache vorsetzen.
EMIL. MOLT: Es wird doch nicht ausschließen, dass der Jahresbericht auch noch sein kann.
RUDOLF STEINER: Sie müssen nur bedenken, wie wenig man geneigt ist, auf die Sache einzugehen. Ich bekam von jemandem, wenige Tage bevor ich abgereist bin, die Mitteilung, man möchte in die «Zeitschrift für wissenschaftliche Pädagogik» einen Artikel über die Waldorfschule aufnehmen, da der Herr meint, er glaubt, das verwirklicht zu sehen. Das ist der Rein. Er hat offenbar nur ein paar Linien, die er in seinen Richtlinien verstand. Die Leute lesen heute in einer eigenartigen Weise.
Also nicht wahr, der Prospekt muss so irgendetwas enthalten. Wenn also der Rein einen Artikel haben soll, das ist etwas anderes. Wenn Sie aber jemandem ersichtlich machen [und] bewirken wollen, dass der Betreffende Mitglied wird und 50 Mark bezahlt, dann braucht man auch nicht in die Einzelheiten der Gegenstände einzugehen, sondern man braucht nur große Linien vorzuhalten, die richtig sind. Dieser Prospekt würde eine Sache für sich sein. Der würde oben enthalten die Aufforderung zur Zahlung von soundso viel. [Aber] der Jahresbericht, der könnte eben das sein, was ich eine Historie der Schule nenne. Da lässt sich alles unterbringen, was so von einzelnen Lehrern verfasst wird. Alles Berichtende braucht nicht kurz zu sein; alles, was Bericht heißt, kann lang sein. Wenn der Prospekt massenhaft Geld trägt, wird Herr Molt schon was abgeben für den Jahresbericht. Das ist eine ganz republikanische Frage. Der Jahresbericht wirkt durch die Mannigfaltigkeit der Namen. Da wäre es zu bedenken, ob eine Uniformität anzustreben wäre. Der eine berichtet pedantisch: Das und das hat sich ergeben, Monat für Monat. Der andere schreibt: Nach dem, was ich erfahren habe, könnte ich nach fünfhundert Jahren es so und so machen. [Zu Walter Johannes Stein:] Sie haben diesen so schnell geschrieben, dass Sie den anderen auch so schnell schreiben.
Rudolf Steiner wird gebeten, doch auch selber etwas dazu zu schreiben.
RUDOLF STEINER: Das ist eine sehr penible Sache. Wenn ich auch nur drei Seiten schreibe, so würde ich einen Bericht schreiben müssen über dasjenige, was ich erlebt habe; das könnte den anderen unangenehm sein. Wenn ich als Lehrer schreibe, würde ich es so veranlagen, dass ich es so von dem betreffenden Prospekt unterscheiden würde: Der Prospekt enthält das, was beabsichtigt ist, was mit jedem Jahr besser werden soll; das, was berichtet wird, zeigt, was man erfüllen konnte und was nicht. Es wird ersichtlich sein der Abstand der Wirklichkeit von dem, was der Prospekt enthalten muss. So wird, wenn ich etwas schreibe, es natürlich auch in diesem Stil gehalten sein. Die langen Nasen kommen hinterher.
EMIL MOLT: Da kommen manche, die sagen: Da habt ihr manches inszeniert und nicht erreichen können.
RUDOLF STEINER: Ich kann also auch drei Seiten schreiben; das kann ich machen.
KARL SCHUBERT berichtet über seine Hilfsklasse mit neun Kindern.
Die Sprachlehrer der 1. Klasse, Caroline von Heydebrand und Herbert Hahn, berichten über den Sprachunterricht.
RUDOLF STEINER: [Sprachen werden umso leichter gelernt, und die Aussprache wird umso besser und reiner, je früher begonnen wird. Die Begabung für Sprachen nimmt mit zunehmendem Alter, vom siebenten Jahr an, ab. Deshalb muss man früh damit anfangen.
Chorsprechen ist sehr gut, denn die Sprache ist ein soziales Element. Im Chor lässt sich immer leichter sprechen als allein.]
JOHANNES GEYER und RupoLr TREICHLER berichten über den lateinischen und altgriechischen Unterricht: Für das Lateinische gibt es zwei Kurse; im unteren sind nur zwei Buben. [Der obere Kurs ist begabt und willig.]
RUDOLF STEINER: [Die Fortschritte sind gut.]
ELISABETH von GRUNELIVS berichtet über den Kindergarten mit dreiunddreißig Kindern. Sie fragt, ob man Ausschneidearbeiten im Kindergarten machen solle.
RUDOLF STEINER: Wenn Sie [solche] künstlichen Sachen von den Kindern machen lassen wollen, dann werden Sie darauf kommen, dass das eine oder andere zu so etwas Talent hat. Es werden nicht viele sein, den anderen redet man es ein. Die Sachen sind so, dass, wenn sie hübsch sind, sind sie hübsch; an sich sind es künstliche Dinge. Ich würde nur dann, wenn ich sehe, dass ein Kind nach so einer Richtung neigt, es gibt einzelne, dem nachgeben. Einführen als solches würde ich es nicht.
[Mit Wasserfarben sollte man anfangen.]
Sie meinen Ausschneiden und Aufkleben? Wenn Sie finden, dass ein Kind zum Silhouettieren Talent hat, kann man nachgeben. Ich würde nicht fröbeln, ja nicht fröbeln!
Die Kinder, die Sie bekommen, die werden wahrscheinlich am besten sich beschäftigen, wenn Sie sie mit möglichst ungeschlachten Objekten sinnvolle Dinge machen lassen. Irgendetwas! Nicht wahr, man muss versuchen, zu erlauschen, was die Kinder interessiert. Es gibt Kinder, Mädchen insbesondere, denen können Sie aus jedem Taschentuch Puppen machen. Die Puppen schreiben sich Briefe, dann werden diese Briefe vermittelt; Sie können der Briefträger oder die Post sein. Sinnvolle Sachen mit möglichst ungeschlachten Dingen.
Und dann wachsen die Kinder, wenn der Zahnwechsel eintritt, in das hinein, wenn sie die Anlage haben, dass sie selbst etwas vorstellen wollen, dass der eine ein Hase ist, der andere ein Hund; sinnvolle Dinge, wo sich das Kind selbst hineinträumt. Das Prinzip des Spieles besteht darinnen, dass das Kind bis zum Zahnwechsel im Spiele sinnvolle Dinge nachahmt, Kasperl und Puppe; [bei den Knaben Kasperles, bei den Mädchen Puppen]. [Oder dass] der Kasperl ein Großer ist, der einen Kleineren neben sich hat; es brauchen nur zwei Holzspäne zu sein. Vom siebenten Jahre ab bringt man dann die Kinder in Reigen und Kreise, und sie stellen etwas vor. Es können zwei ein Haus sein, die anderen [stehen drum herum oder] wohnen darin. Da steht das Kind selbst darin. Nachher steht es selbst darin.
Für [musikalische] Kinder kann man etwas anderes spielen, etwas, wodurch Sie ihrer Musikbegabung entgegenkommen. Das sollte man kultivieren, dass unmusikalische Kinder durch Tanz und Eurythmie die musikalischen Anlagen herausbringen. Man muss erfinden. Man kann solche Sachen machen, man muss aber erfinden, sonst wird es stereotyp. Später wird es leichter, da knüpft man an Schulmäßiges an.
ELISABETH BAUMANN erzählt, sie habe im Eurythmieunterricht die Konsonanten durch Tätigkeiten eingeprägt, zum Beispiel durch das Wachsen der Pflanzen.
RUDOLF STEINER: Das ist sehr schön. - Es ist so, dass die Kinder nicht sehr stark differenziert sind. Sie haben wenig ganz unbegabte, aber auch wenig geniale. Es sind mittlere Kinder. Ebenso sind von den Temperamenten das cholerische und [tiefJmelancholische Temperament wenig vorhanden. Eigentlich sind die Kinder Phlegmatiker und Sanguiniker. Das spielt auch da hinein. Sie haben auch nicht alle vier Temperamente so.
Phlegmatische Kinder, die kriegt man wohl nur in Bewegung, wenn man versuchen wird, [mit ihnen] die schwierigen Konsonanten zu machen; die sanguinischen Kinder mit den leichteren Konsonanten. [Mit] den phlegmatischen Kindern [macht man] R und S; bei sanguinischen Kindern die Konsonanten, die Ansätze zur Bewegung geben: [D und T]. Wenn wir in den nächsten Jahren andere Temperamente haben, können wir ja Weiteres versuchen. Merkwürdig ist, dass die Kinder, die [sonst schulmäßig] wenig leisten, viel Eurythmie machen. Die Fortschritte sind ganz gut, aber ich hätte gerne, dass man berücksichtigt, was fortschreitet. Es würde unsere Aufgabe sein, dass man viel mehr mit den Kindern zu dem redet, was man als Lehrstoff [vorbringt], dass man mehr auf die Schulung des Denk- und Empfindungslebens sieht. Man kann wirklich darauf sehen, [zum Beispiel] im Rechnen, dass man [dem Schüler] klarmacht, -5, -a, man macht ihm klar, dass er 5 weniger hat, als er dem anderen geben soll. Ganz präzis darauf eingehen im Dialog.
Manchmal [ist es gut, mit den Kindern] abzuschweifen [vom Thema].
Dann werden Sie merken, dass die Kinder nicht so schnell im Aufsatz perfekt werden, aber dass dieser Mangel nicht so stark hervortritt. Nicht wahr, die Kinder, die kopfbegabt sind, [werden] gute Aufsätze schreiben, die leibbegabten Kinder [werden] in der Eurythmie gut [sein]. Man muss versuchen, das [durch Unterhaltung] auszugleichen. Wenn Sie sich mit den Kindern unterhalten, wird das abgelenkt vom Kopf, wenn Sie etwas, was vom äußeren Leben hergenommen ist, besprechen und [es dabei] vertiefen.
Es wird gefragt, wie man das Perfektum behandeln kann.
RUDOLF STEINER: Da würde ich mit den Kindern nach allen Noten durchsprechen den Parallelismus zwischen dem Vergangenen und dem Vollkommenen. Was ist ein perfekter Mensch, ein perfekter Tisch? Diese Zusammenhänge zwischen dem, was vollkommen ist, fertig ist, und dem Perfektum. Ich würde dann eingehen auf das Imperfektum, wo man noch darinnen steht im Vervollkommnen. Wenn ich heute Zeit gehabt hätte, würde ich den Kindern das Lesestück im Perfektum vorgemacht haben - man kann natürlich nicht jeden Satz übersetzen -, das würde Leben hineinbringen, und Leben bringt auch die Eurythmie in die Kopfbildung hinein. Ich würde zwischen den Zeilen vieles treiben. Ich habe heute schon gesagt, ich kann es verstehen, dass man da sagen kann, man schweift nicht gern ab. Es ist [aber doch] etwas, was man als Ideal betrachten soll, immer solche Dinge [einzumischen]. Zum Beispiel: Ich habe heute solche Lust gehabt, ich wollte durchaus Ihre Kinder [in der 3. Klasse] traktieren mit dem «hurtig tog», dadurch erweitert man die Gedanken. Das heißt Schnellzug. So meine ich, zwischen den Zeilen mit den Kindern etwas machen, dann wird dies nicht mehr so sein.
Es wird über den Eurythmieraum gesprochen.
RUDOLF STEINER: Ich habe noch nie das Glück gehabt, dass jemand mir den Raum gelobt hat. Frau Doktor Steiner möchte am liebsten nur die Wiese haben und darüber ein Dach. Wenn man durch die Eurythmie den Kindern gerade die schönsten körperlichen Affinitäten erweckt, [dann] spüren sie furchtbar alle Einwirkungen [des Raumes] — das ist. das’ Müdewerden. Wir keinen den schönen Eurythmiesaal, man hat vergessen, die Lüftung groß genug zu machen, den können wir gar nicht benützen. Es würde notwendig sein, dass man zur Eurythmie einen gut gelüfteten Saal hat. Alles [Bisherige] ist für Eurythmiesäle nicht gut; man kann nur ein Surrogat schaffen. Die Eurythmiesäle müssten so sein, dass sie gut gelüftet sein müssten, [dass sie] ganz besonders gute Ventilation [haben]. Das Eurythmeum muss eben gebaut werden.
Eleventh Conference
Rudolf Steiner spoke for the first time at a monthly celebration on June 10, and for the first time the question was asked of the children: “Do you love your teachers?” A parents' evening had been called for the following day. Steiner spoke about “The School Habits of the Declining Age and the School Practice of the Coming Day” (both in GA 298). He criticized the public education system in harsh terms.
Topics: The annual report. Foreign languages should be started early. Teaching is always a conversation with the whole class. Creating balance between children who are gifted intellectually and those who are gifted physically. About the work in kindergarten.
Comments: Steiner pointed out that foreign language teaching should begin early, because with advancing age, the ability to learn a second or third language in the same way as the mother tongue is learned diminishes. When answering questions after a lecture in Torquay, he said that under “reasonable conditions” foreign language teaching could begin in kindergarten (GA 311, August 20, 1924).
Using the example of the “perfect tense,” Steiner described what he meant by lively teaching.
His refusal to contribute to the annual report showed how precisely he had in mind what the school had achieved and still had to achieve; it would be “a tedious task.”
Chair: Paul Baumann.
The brochure and the annual report are mentioned.
RUDOLF STEINER: What is the purpose of this promotional material and to what extent should it be used?
EMIL. MOLT: [It should] be sent to all interested parties.
RUDOLF STEINER: So it should contain an invitation. Then what has been presented to me is far too long. It would have no effect. If everyone who is to become a member of the Waldorf School Association reads it in this form, it would have to be condensed to half a page. But this is a proper booklet.
KARL STOCKMEYER: I don't think it's that thick.
RUDOLF STEINER: But consider Dr. Stein's writing; it already has thirty printed pages. It is [also] too long in terms of style. What we have here is a kind of communication document for the other teachers. It is aimed more at those who think pedagogically than at those who intend to join the association. It should be aimed at everyone in the public who is interested in the school. They don't read such things. This point of view was not raised at all last time. The brochure was always viewed from the point of view of propaganda.
So this brochure could only go ahead as a substitute for the usual scholarly treatises. Otherwise, the scholarly treatise has always been there, and such a thing could precede it, which in principle explains the matter. A description of the building, the house, and then one moves on to a description of the pedagogy and didactics of the Waldorf school and goes into the individual subjects.
KARL STOCKMEYER: Material is also particularly necessary for parents who want to send their children to us.
RUDOLF STEINER: That's right: for such parents, the compilation of the material that is already available, for example what is in the Waldorf News, would be good material. But none of this replaces a brochure, which should be no longer than eight printed pages. There must be thousands of members, so you need to provide them with something very short and concise.
EMIL. MOLT: That doesn't rule out the possibility of an annual report as well.
RUDOLF STEINER: You just have to consider how little people are inclined to engage with the subject. A few days before I left, I received a message from someone saying that they would like to include an article about the Waldorf School in the “Journal of Scientific Pedagogy” because the gentleman believes he can see it being realized. That is Rein. He obviously only understood a few lines in his guidelines. People read in a peculiar way today.
So, no, the brochure must contain something like that. If Rein wants an article, that's something else. But if you want to make it clear to someone [and] get them to become a member and pay 50 marks, then you don't need to go into the details of the items, you just need to present the broad outlines, which are correct. This brochure would be a thing unto itself. It would contain a request for payment of a certain amount at the top. [But] the annual report could be what I call a history of the school. It could include everything written by individual teachers. Not everything that is reported needs to be short; everything that is reported can be long. If the brochure brings in a lot of money, Mr. Molt will give something to the annual report. That is a very republican question. The annual report is effective because of the diversity of names. It would be worth considering whether uniformity should be sought. One person reports pedantically: This and that happened, month by month. Another writes: Based on what I have learned, I could do this or that after five hundred years. [To Walter Johannes Stein:] You wrote this one so quickly that you could write the other one just as quickly.
Rudolf Steiner is asked to write something himself.
RUDOLF STEINER: That is a very delicate matter. Even if I write only three pages, I would have to write a report about what I have experienced; that could be unpleasant for the others. If I write as a teacher, I would arrange it in such a way that I would distinguish it from the prospectus in question: The prospectus contains what is intended, what should improve with each year; what is reported shows what could be achieved and what could not. The gap between reality and what the brochure must contain will be apparent. So when I write something, it will naturally be in this style. The long noses come afterwards.
EMIL MOLT: Some people will say: You staged some things and were unable to achieve them.
RUDOLF STEINER: So I can also write three pages; I can do that.
KARL SCHUBERT reports on his remedial class with nine children.
The language teachers of the 1st grade, Caroline von Heydebrand and Herbert Hahn, report on language teaching.
RUDOLF STEINER: [The earlier you start, the easier it is to learn languages and the better and purer the pronunciation becomes. The talent for languages decreases with age, from the age of seven onwards. That is why you have to start early.
Choral speaking is very good, because language is a social element. It is always easier to speak in a choir than alone.]
JOHANNES GEYER and RupoLr TREICHLER report on Latin and Ancient Greek lessons: There are two courses for Latin; there are only two boys in the lower course. [The upper course is talented and willing.]
RUDOLF STEINER: [The progress is good.]
ELISABETH von GRUNELIVS reports on the kindergarten with thirty-three children. She asks whether cutting-out work should be done in kindergarten.
RUDOLF STEINER: If you want the children to do [such] artificial things, you will find that one or two of them have a talent for it. There won't be many, but you can persuade the others. The thing is, if they are pretty, they are pretty; but they are artificial things. I would only give in if I saw that a child had a tendency in that direction; there are a few who do. I would not introduce it as such.
[You should start with watercolors.]
You mean cutting and pasting? If you find that a child has a talent for silhouetting, you can give in. I wouldn't do crafts, no crafts!
The children you get will probably be best occupied if you let them do meaningful things with objects that are as crude as possible. Anything! You have to try to listen to what interests the children. There are children, girls in particular, who can make dolls out of any handkerchief. The dolls write letters to each other, then these letters are delivered; you can be the mailman or the post office. Meaningful things with the crudest possible materials.
And then, when they start losing their baby teeth, children grow into it if they have the inclination to imagine something themselves, one being a rabbit, the other a dog; meaningful things that the child can dream themselves into. The principle of the game is that until they lose their baby teeth, children imitate meaningful things in their games, Punch and Judy and dolls; [for boys, puppets; for girls, dolls]. [Or that] the puppet is a big one with a smaller one next to it; it only needs to be two pieces of wood. From the age of seven, the children are brought into rounds and circles, and they act something out. Two of them can be a house, the others [stand around it or] live in it. The child stands in it. Afterwards, it stands in it itself.
For [musical] children, you can play something else, something that caters to their musical talent. This should be cultivated so that unmusical children can bring out their musical abilities through dance and eurythmy. You have to be inventive. You can do things like that, but you have to be inventive, otherwise it becomes stereotypical. Later on, it becomes easier, as you can tie in with what is taught at school.
ELISABETH BAUMANN says that in eurythmy lessons she taught the consonants through activities, for example through the growth of plants.
RUDOLF STEINER: That's very nice. - The fact is that children are not very differentiated. There are few who are completely untalented, but also few who are geniuses. They are average children. Similarly, in terms of temperament, the choleric and [deep melancholic temperaments are also rarely found. In fact, the children are phlegmatic and sanguine. That also plays a role here. They don't all have all four temperaments either.
Phlegmatic children can only be encouraged to move if you try to teach them the difficult consonants; sanguine children can be encouraged with the easier consonants. With phlegmatic children, you do R and S; with sanguine children, the consonants that give the impetus for movement: D and T. If we have other temperaments in the coming years, we can try other things. It is strange that the children who [otherwise perform poorly at school] do a lot of eurythmy. The progress is quite good, but I would like to see consideration given to what is progressing. It would be our task to talk much more with the children about what is being taught, to focus more on training their thinking and feeling lives. You can really see this, [for example] in arithmetic, where you make it clear to [the student] that -5, -a means that they have 5 less than they should give to the other person. Address this very precisely in dialogue.
Sometimes [it is good to digress [from the topic] with the children].
Then you will notice that the children do not become perfect at writing essays so quickly, but that this deficiency is not so noticeable. Isn't it true that children who are intellectually gifted [will] write good essays, while children who are physically gifted [will] be good at eurythmy? You have to try to balance this out [through conversation]. When you talk to the children, it distracts them from their heads if you discuss something taken from external life and explore it in depth.
The question is asked how the perfect tense can be dealt with.
RUDOLF STEINER: I would discuss the parallelism between the past and the perfect with the children in every detail. What is a perfect person, a perfect table? These connections between what is perfect, finished, and the perfect tense. I would then go into the imperfect tense, where one is still in the process of perfecting. If I had had time today, I would have read the passage to the children in the perfect tense—of course, you can't translate every sentence—that would bring life to it, and eurythmy also brings life to the formation of the head. I would do a lot between the lines. I already said today that I can understand that one might say that one does not like to digress. But it is something that should be regarded as an ideal, always to include such things. For example: today I felt such a desire to torment your children [in the 3rd grade] with the “hurtig tog,” which broadens the mind. That means express train. So I think that if you do something between the lines with the children, then this will no longer be the case.
There is talk about the eurythmy room.
RUDOLF STEINER: I have never had the good fortune to have anyone praise the room. Mrs. Steiner would prefer to have only the meadow and a roof over it. When eurythmy awakens the most beautiful physical affinities in children, [then] they feel all the effects [of the room] terribly — that is, they become tired. We don't have a beautiful eurythmy hall; they forgot to make the ventilation big enough, so we can't use it at all. It would be necessary to have a well-ventilated hall for eurythmy. Everything [so far] is not good for eurythmy halls; one can only create a surrogate. Eurythmy halls should be well ventilated, [they should] have particularly good ventilation. The Eurythmeum must be built.
